Discrimination is natural

Social Darwinism is just Darwinism. Social Darwinism is just the rational assumption that mankind does not exist in a special bubble, cut off from forces we see at work every time we turn on National Geographic.

The common retort is that “social Darwinism” is merely a  just-so story concocted post-hoc to explain away the effects of discrimination. There are haves and have-nots, power and oppression, and in my mind it is an obvious statement to say that such things are inevitable or “natural” given the dynamics of life on Earth. To others, however, by saying it I am erasing the real culprits, the real agents of inequality among humans: discrimination, privilege, and so on. Nothing natural about those. Combat them, and you will see equality flourish.

But this is a misunderstanding. Discrimination and privilege are absolutely a part of the natural order of things that we see at work on National Geographic.

Japanese macaques (snow monkeys) have a stark hierarchy of who does and who does not get to soak in the hot springs. There is a certain class privilege given to young macaques who are lucky enough to be born to dominant females. They get the warm waters of the hot springs; the others are quite literally left out in the cold.

Elk regularly face discrimination—the ones who are weak, elderly, retarded are the ones who will be eaten by the wolves, not the ones who are strong, young, able. Clearly, ageism and able-bodied privilege are at work on the arctic tundra, and the consequences are not psychological but a matter of life and death.

Rape-culture is rampant in nature. Just the other day, at the zoo, I saw a male lion humping a female lion despite her obvious displeasure and anger. Yet she was weaker and smaller than the male lion, and had nowhere to run.

Privilege, discrimination, rape-culture . . . the academic concepts of the Progressives are merely labels for behaviors that we see across the animal kingdom, and it is the existence of privilege, discrimination, and rape culture across the animal kingdom that completely undermines the utility of these concepts—they are supposed to name uniquely human (and therefore alterable) phenomena. But as spending five minutes in front of a wildlife documentary will demonstrate, they are not uniquely human phenomena. They exist in the non-human world. So the onus is on the progressives: what makes you think you can change the behavior of the human animal any more than you can stop dominant macaques from keeping the other macaques out of the hot springs?

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21 responses

  1. So the onus is on the progressives: what makes you think you can change the behavior of the human animal any more than you can stop dominant macaques from keeping the other macaques out of the hot springs?

    …whilst meanwhile shredding 10000 years development of religious and cultural mores, taboos, and customs which have a long track record of dealing successfully with many of the pathologies they detest.

    May 14, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    • Excellent addition. Exactly.

      May 14, 2014 at 5:57 pm

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  3. sooooooooooo lots of natural things are bad, like infanticide, or, you know, the 7 deadlies.

    The question we need to answer is not ‘is discrimination natural’, because really, who actually believes Locke and Rousseau’s state of nature? It’s ill-defined because it’s irrelevant to the main argument: that privileging Whites over Blacks and discriminating between them is bad because it reduces the range of experiences possible to an individual, thus reducing his or her or xir range of expression and self-actualization.

    Can you prove to your leftist interlocutor that the reduction in options for an individual is proper, or justified in order to get or preserve something better?

    I was convinced that this reduction in options was necessary to preserve and extend civilization, which I saw as the most important thing. I was led to this by my onery engineering background: I want to build wonders. Wonders require a civilization. Civilization requires the bulls to come out and gore the criminals off the streets, and maybe also force men and women to either have babies or keep their sexual intercourse verbal. But I recognize that not everyone sees physical works as the most important works of man.

    Some believe that the perfect society is worth any sacrifice – so why not?

    I have a dream that one day men will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character, says MLK somewhat ironically.

    What we need to do is explain to MLK why his four daughters can’t go to Disneyland, without the libertarian evasion that it’s private property, and without saying that the beefed-up security would cost too much.

    Is it possible?

    If it was possible, wouldn’t it have been done already?

    Or is it going to remain an article of NRx doctrine that privilege is okay and it should be provable, but hasn’t yet been? AFAIK, that’s the Catholic doctrine about God.

    Since our age is the age of the human atom, I don’t know if it is possible. Perhaps if the family was the basic unit of society, and the nation as a collection of families.

    May 14, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    • viking

      are there any other animals that can simply re invent th instincts habits culture that they co evolved with, i don’t think so and i dont see any evidence that humans can switch cultures successfully. This Idea that one can self actualize in any way one wants is as dubious as the idea a culture can survive such outliers.Thats not to say there is not a range and or overlap.and i suppose you meant that the range is greater for in group members than out group adoptees true because overall the difference remains less. so yes its more important to preserve a culture both because its greater numbers are preserved but also because it alows a great range within it to its members than does a multicultural culture. multiculturalism requires repression by design.But this all presupposes we accept the premises of natural law liberalism etc
      Perhaps we dont think infanticide a bad thing maybe we are chinese or muslim and dont think self actualization is such a good. maybe we think evolution is the model for capitalism and while experimentation might work we certainly are not investing.MLK daughter cant stay in the western world because we found out they are not compatible with our culture, we bent over backwards to see if it were simply bad habits or if we could reach an accommodation but its become clear we could have moved mars closer and terraformed it more cheaply than that project and so must cut our losses. Nams on the other hand may be too adaptive their high IQ makes further trials worthwhile perhaps.

      as to justifying discrimination because oppression , well HBD is not just that we are not created equal but evolved differently but the proofs themselves are the answer to its the oppression stupid argument. its not the oppression we know that now for a fact the violence IQ etc are not cause by anything but genetics so stopping oppression meaning not protecting oneself will not stop the behavior is not stopping the behavior the violence and stupidity goes on jim crow or not . all that happens is the formerly privileged group becomes oppressed but since they built the culture we have a problem of sustainability. .

      April 12, 2015 at 9:08 pm

  4. Reblogged this on Philosophies of a Disenchanted Scholar and commented:
    Simple – they don’t believe it. It’s a distraction to expend energy while the mantle of power is stolen under our feet.

    May 15, 2014 at 3:11 am

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  6. JAB

    Progressives aren’t against inequality. Everything they do is in support of greater inequality and centralization of wealth and power.

    Neoreactionaries seem to glamorize and fetishize “inequality”, “hierarchy”, and the like, and they seem to believe that progressives not only want to reduce inequality and hierarchy, but have actually successfully done so in the last half century or so. Nothing could be further from the truth. All of it – feminism, anti-racism, multiculturalism — has been about lowering wages and centralizing wealth under the guise of political
    correctness and producing a far more unequal and hierarchical society.

    May 27, 2014 at 12:05 am

  7. Anonymous

    just found this blog and it’s always a jolt to see a living breathing scientific racist in tyool 2014. i’m not generally an advocate of violence but anti-fascism seem to be an honourable cause, and i’m finding it hard not to wish someone detonates a car bomb outside your apartment

    August 21, 2014 at 9:12 am

    • viking

      sure beats having to work up an argument huh

      April 12, 2015 at 9:10 pm

  8. SanguineEmpiricist

    This is by far one of your most inferior pieces of writing. Cocktail RRRRRReaction. Back to Cochran’s blog.

    Is this even worth stating? Who are you even talking to? Yourself?What the fuck.

    August 27, 2014 at 9:04 am

    • I’m talking to the progressives who think that discrimination is sui generis, a thing unique to humans, and particularly, to European humans living after the year 1492.

      November 8, 2014 at 4:55 pm

  9. Anonymous

    The difference is that humans are sapient, sentient creatures with a level of awareness not found anywhere else in the animal kingdom. A Heroin addict who shoots up every day is just shooting up, but an addict who shoots up after having been clean for several months is considered to have “relapsed.” Similarly, “privilege, discrimination, and rape culture” occurring in the wild is one thing, whereas the same things’ occurrence in our society is something else entirely.
    If you really can’t see a difference between modern human society and a community of monkeys, maybe you don’t belong here. If you think your behavior is as unwaveringly primal as that of macaques, feel free to leave our progressive society and go fight with the other monkeys over hot spring privileges. The rest of us will be over here thinking rationally, because we, as humans, can do that.

    September 9, 2014 at 5:53 am

    • Our sapience is a difference in degree, not kind, in comparison to the animal kingdom. How are privilege and discrimination in the animal kingdom any different from the same in the human kingdom? Explain in a way that doesn’t use moral language, please.

      November 8, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    • viking

      yes yes but if you really cant see the similarity between a group of monkeys and the average African then maybe you dont get out much. Please spare me the anecdote about your friend from grad school
      This isn’t about hate its about really honestly crunching the numbers and realizing all men our not created equal they are evolved differently. it not supremacy its selected for which environments. what must it be like for blacks to know that only a very few will ever really come close to being able to compete and what of the cost to us its not just a trillion a year in actual welfare its trillions more in lawsuits affirmative action productivity losses, our own best and brightest siphoned off as professional apologists rather than engineers , our culture destroyed the costs of crime courts property damage security the destruction of our education system. the cover this pretense gives to potential slacker of our own who we would not tolerate a minute if not fot the obvious correlation, the wage depression the real estate inflation, the catastrophic population implosion of whites and what will we do with all these low IQ mouths in another decade when robots and software has made unskilled labor unnecessary. .

      April 12, 2015 at 9:21 pm

      • M.J. Pendragon aka Duke D.

        Its clear the low IQ mouths will have to be killed off some how!

        April 7, 2016 at 1:29 am

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  12. M.J. Pendragon aka Duke D.

    Discrimination is natural, even within the same race, within the same family, clan, sects, polyamorous relationships….Companies, etc. Discrimination is everywhere in various forms..soft and hard forms….in schools and even daycare!!!!

    The question is ..how does it benefit to discriminate and in what circumstances? We all know in many circumstances…its outright wrong…but its important for other circumstances to discriminate…e.g. hiring a nanny for your 21 month old kid. you have to be careful..very careful who you hire and Why!

    You also have to be careful who you marry, given health history, credit score, family history, prison history if any…etc. Yes…in many instances in life…we have todiscriminate as well…

    April 7, 2016 at 1:35 am

  13. where are your references? cant find any legit sources for that bit about the Snow Monkeys.

    fabricated if you ask me.

    August 17, 2016 at 9:44 am

  14. Singi

    Holy fuck man 6,658,987 dead cops
    Singularity is near
    Mind blowing

    May 5, 2017 at 12:11 am

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